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Spiritual philosopher in history/over-intellectual experience

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:46 am
by yolando
Hello i have few question for those who have answers :)
I would like to know AJ's opinion.
i am ready to listen to answers and to reconsider possibles mistakes i made in my thinking..


Who was padre Pio? and why did he have the stigmata on his hands?

Some people in past 100 years have taught spiritual teaching that look like those from your organization on some point.
What do you think about:
-Eckhart tolle?
-Aurobindo Ghose?
-nisargadatta maharaj
-Jiddu krishnamurti?
-Ramana maharshi?
and what about Ma ananda moyi? wasn't she "at-one-ment with god" ?

All those person have spoken about an interior brutal change in there body.. a change that seams to be the passage from intelectual brain fonctioning to a state that is over-intelectual in the total present and presence..
There are few people that have lived the same experience..
From what i know this experience is brutal and make one very suprised at first because everything look different at the moment of the passage.All the image we had about exterior are disolved and all our reference points are dropped.. It can make feel terror inside because something is about to die and we are completely lost without any reference point.. it's like falling into a psychological void from an intelectual point of view..
Some people like krishnamurti describe this processus as the "dissolution of the ego".
In this processus there is a body change in many cases.. some people have given name to this body change like 'kundalini"...
According to the "spiritual growing scale" in divinetruth teachings, where is this change i'm pointing at? is it what AJ call passage from 6th sphere to 7th sphere?? are all these people over 6th sphere?

Also i can add that most of these people i quoted never speak about an entity "god".. why?
Some of them just speak about a natural state where there is no more seek because the seeker just disapeared..
It's like reaching the final state where there is no more growing because there is nobody that is looking for growing..

As an example look at this video
Where UG krishnamurti speak about this state..

And this makes sense to me. The search/demand is responsible for the inside conflict.. and i believe that at one point (once we have deal with emotion and other "reactive mental schemes") the only things that happen is an inside abandonment..
Jiddu krishnamurti and eckart tolle claim that the key is an observation without jujement because jujement comes from the memory and feed/keep up the "persona" we believed us to be.. i agree with that and i see why your teaching focus on observing/dealing with emotion..
But where i have question is when you introduce "god concept".. because this "passage" i have just spoken about occurs without any relation with any entity.. and yet is a passage over-concept/over-intellectual...
This correspond to over 7th sphere? but here there is no relation or demand from the humain being but just a last inside abandonment movement of his persona/ego..
From what i have said i wonder what kind of growing there can be after that point.. apart from technical knowledge about universe...

Well the intelectual being who i am need answer to those questions ;) it's part of the game ;)

Re: Spiritual philosopher in history/over-intellectual experience

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:41 am
by Nicky
Hi there and welcome to the forum.

I'd like to ask if you have you read the forum terms of use?

The only reason that I ask is because one of the major reasons why the forum has been set up is so that people can discuss solely Divine Truth related teachings and principles, rather than philosophising over other spiritual movements and practices.

You are currently in breach of the below section of the terms of use:

• Posting content not in harmony with the teachings of Divine Truth

While I agree, you do refer back to certain aspects that Jesus & Mary teach, you have posted a link to YouTube that refers people to non-divine truth material which I have now removed from your post. I do not feel there is much scope for discussion on this thread and the general stuff you are intellectually going over in your mind about are all new age/natural love practices which is not one of the goals/intentions of this forum.

You are completely free to do your own private reflections between all of the teachings that you have listed but posting anything further on the forum which is not solely about Divine Truth will result in you receiving a RED STRIKE and being muted.

Thanks
Nicky

Re: Spiritual philosopher in history/over-intellectual experience

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:44 pm
by yolando
ok Nicky,
i am replying here because i can't use private message.
I realise that i'm pointing at some others teachings and elaborating on them.. This leads to taking away divine truth teaching. And the fact that i am puting video link amplify this impression.
As i see it it doesn't seem unappropriate to me to speak about eastern spirituality from the past century and analyze some famous spiritual person that seemed to possess some kind of truth like Aj does. And i feel like what i am speaking about is related to divinetruth teaching (Ego,enlightenment,
non conceptualized reality..etc).
But as you said this forum is used to study divine truth teaching only..so i am not supposed to bring others elements and make comparison and ask question about other teachings and go deeper into it.
The right moment i will adress those questions directly by email or orally if one day i travel to australia that is so far from europe :)

You can delete this topic.

Merci

Au revoir 8-) (from France)

Re: Spiritual philosopher in history/over-intellectual experience

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:33 am
by Nicky
Hi Yolando.

Ok no problem - I will lock this thread (rather than deleting it).

Thanks
Nicky

Re: Spiritual philosopher in history/over-intellectual experience

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:18 pm
by Nicky
Hi everyone

After some consideration, I have decided to unlock this thread and provide a couple of links to a few Divine Truth Videos whereby Jesus answers many of the questions that Yolando has asked in his original post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKwFuRW ... A47BFCE723

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77QBtMR4cTE

I thought that this would not only be of benefit to Yolando, but also probably a number of guests who browse these forums who come from a similar spiritual background and have the same unresolved questions about spiritual matters that Jesus has actually already answered in the above videos and that they may not have been aware of.

Cheers
Nicky